Vaccines and Abortions – a moral dilemma

+ the everyday business of KILLING BABIES to create VACCINES +

“Before I formed you in the womb I knew you,
    before you were born I set you apart;
    I appointed you as a prophet to the nations.”
Jeremiah 1:5

“Killing humans and then reaping financial rewards for having done so is reprehensible. When we help provide those rewards, we risk becoming complicit in this moral wrong and even legitimizing it to others.” (USCCB Life Insight)

“When he listens to his conscience the prudent man can hear God speaking.” CCC 1777

Hello Friends & Foe ~ I welcome you all to this discussion board.
There has been quite the talk recently about vaccines & a certain ingredient in them that should make any Christian take a step back & be willing to ask a few blunt questions & dive into the horrific details of it.

Such as:
Do Vaccines Actually Contain Aborted Babies?
Which Vaccines Contain Aborted Babies?
As a Believer, should I be ok with Injecting Vaccines into my body if they contain Aborted Babies?
Wasn’t it just two babies in the 1960’s that were used in Vaccines? (The answer is a very big N-O by the way)

Of all ingredients in Vaccines – This is the ingredient I have dedicated far more of my life into researching than what I thought humanly possible.
It has sickened & grieved & angered me at the very core of my being.
I believe without hesitation that The Vaccine Industry is corrupt & is Fueled by Abortions & Money.
They want abortions to continue & they continue to use murdered babies to fuel their research & development.

Moving on.
I am compiling this blog post as a resource to direct my instagram followers to – the ones who genuinely want sources & facts on this subject. Throughout this blog you will see that I have added links into much of the text. If I’m referring to a certain topic, you will see that their is a link if you click into that text. I have also included a list of links at the bottom of this page.
Have at it my darlings.

Q. DO VACCINES ACTUALLY CONTAIN ABORTED BABIES?
A. Some of them do & some of them do not.

Q. WHICH VACCINES CONTAIN ABORTED BABIES?
A list of vaccines that contain aborted fetal cells
(More info can be found by using this link)
• Adenovirus 5,7 (Barr Laboratories )
• MMR II: Rubella portion of Measles,
Mumps, Rubella combo (Merck)
• ProQuad: MMR + Varicella (Merck)
• Varivax: Varicella (Merck)
• Vaqta: Hepatitis-A (Merck)
• Havrix: Hepatitis-A (GSK)
• Twinrix: Hepatitis-A/B (GSK)
• Zostavax & Polio (DTAP-I(DTAP-IPV/HIB in Pentacel and DTAP-IPV in Quadracel) & Shingles (Merck)
• Imovax: Rabies (Sanofi Pasteur)
• Acambis 1000: Smallpox (Acambis)
Some Covid-19 Vaccines being developed

WALVAX 2
is used for viral vaccine production.  The existing cell lines, MRC-5 and WI-38 are currently used in MMR, Varicella, Hepatitis-A, Shingles, some rabies and some polio vaccines.

WALVAX  2 is taken from the lung tissue of a 3 month gestation female who was ultimately selected from among 9 aborted babies.  The scientists noted how they followed specific guidelines to mimic WI-38 and MRC-5 in selecting the aborted babies, ranging from 2-4 months gestation.  They further noted how they induced labor using a “water bag” abortion to shorten the delivery time and prevent the death of the baby to ensure live intact organs which were immediately sent to the labs for cell preparation 

Q. WASN’T IT JUST TWO BABIES IN THE 1960’S THAT WERE ABORTED FOR VACCINES?
1. Current Cell lines cannot keep up with demand so more and more abortions are required to feed the industry. The vaccine industry is dependent on the abortion industry.
2. According to the testimony of Stanley Plotkin, one of the main Vaccine developers, he personally oversaw more than 80 abortions for the development of one vaccine, including taking advantage of orphans, mentally retarded and in-prisoned women.
3. It’s never just one baby per vaccine cell line. Many babies are aborted so that the “best” one can be selected.
* NOTE: 67 abortions to produce rubella virus plus 32 abortions to produce the cell line for cultivation means there was a total of at least 99 elective abortions to create the rubella vaccine alone. Rubella is part of the 3-in-1 MMR vaccine – which a child receives at 12 months old.

Many Christians would like to think that Abortions no longer are needed for Vaccines & that it was just two babies many years ago – This is always a fascinating argument to me & immediately shows me that the person i’m speaking with has not done any research of their own.
The information can be found on the CDC website if you know what to look for.
No one in the medical world will argue that aborted babies aren’t used in Vaccines because they don’t care – they view them as fetuses & not actual babies, so why would they try to argue that babies shouldn’t be murdered & used.
It has been (in my experience) only the Christians who haven’t researched (yet) & would like to continue thinking that Vaccines are fine & try to dispute the use of aborted babies in vaccines.
I am linking a video below that shows Dr. Stanley Plotkin, the co-inventor of the Rubella Vaccine – he is admitting under oath that at least 76 abortions were performed JUST in developing the Rubella Vaccine.

STANLEY PLOTKIN UNDER OATH ADMITTING HE USED 76 ABORTED BABIES FOR THE RUBELLA VACCINE
More Stanley Plotkin Videos
Here, Here & Here.
“These pieces (of baby) were then cut up into little pieces. Some of these pieces were from the babies glands, lungs, skin, kidney, spleen, heart, tongue…”


FACT: Over 100 aborted babies were used in the development of WI-38, RA 27/3 & MRC-5 – the narrative loves to talk only about 2.
I have my strong guesses why. But to put it bluntly, it’s an outright lie.

FACT: Fetal Cell lines are finite – meaning, they will decay & loose strength over time. They will have to be replicated & abortions will have to continue to fuel this fire.
FACT: Babies are continually being aborted, sometimes alive, for the continued research and development of vaccines.
On a further note, the developers of vaccines have themselves stated that the cells will eventually die. Hayflick (A vaccine developer) openly states in his dissertation:
“The cellular theory of aging must be reconsidered since it has been shown that normal human diploid cell strains in vitro are in fact mortal. To our knowledge, no one has thus far reported that cells having the karotype of the tissue of origin have been able to multiply in vitro longer than the lifespan of the species from which tissue was obtained.”[18]

More info here, here & here.
If you haven’t heard enough yet, then read this blog post & meet the babies in your vaccines.

Q. WHAT DOES IT ACTUALLY MEAN THAT ABORTED BABIES ARE USED IN VACCINES?
They need cells to create some vaccines. These wouldn’t have to come from babies, but it makes their job easier, so they do it. Planned Parenthood has made aborted babies very accessible. As we saw a few years ago when the undercover footage came out that Planned Parenthood was selling baby parts to the highest bidders.
You can see more of footage of murdered baby parts being sold here & here & here & here is a website with more info.

The pregnant mother is induced & the baby needed for the vaccine is often born ALIVE in order to harvest the cell strains are derived from the lung, skin, muscle, kidney, heart, thyroid, thymus and liver of the aborted babies.

“And from a clinical standpoint, according to Dr. C. Ward Kischer, PhD one of the leading authorities in the nation on human embryology, the abortion must be pre-arranged in order to have researchers available to immediately preserve the tissue.
“In order to sustain 95% of the cells, the live tissue would need to be preserved within 5 minutes of the abortion”, stated Dr. Kischer. “Within an hour the cells would continue to deteriorate, rendering the specimens useless.” [4]

Recently, The Trump Administration went under fire for temporarily banning the use of aborted fetal cells for development. You can read more about that ban here, here & here. This in itself proves to me that this is ongoing.
I find this quote in the last article fascinating: “It is outrageous that the Trump administration would cloak — and not very well — an effort to deny funding to legitimate scientific research projects that require fetal tissue as an exercise in ethics.”
You don’t have to look very far to see that abortions being used in research and development is continuing & growing.

In some cases, babies are “grown”, extracted through the barbaric water bag method (google it) for the express purpose of vaccine development. See Walvax cell line.

Q. ARE NEW CELL LINES STILL BEING DEVELOPED?
Yes. New vaccines are being developed & there is a high demand for new cell lines from aborted babies because of the old cell lines running out.
Here is an article about some of the recent vaccine development from 2015 with new aborted babies.
Here is another article with sources & links
Here is more info on cell lines being developed.


Q. SHOULD CHRISTIANS BE OK WITH INJECTING THEIR BODIES WITH THE DNA & CELLS OF ABORTED BABIES?
I’ve seen far too many Christian’s scrambling to justify why it’s ok to use vaccines with aborted babies – They say a few of the same lines “God can take evil & turn it for Good”
Or “It’s just like using a murdered person’s organs”
This horrifies me to the core of who I am. Let’s talk about this a bit…

Read this blog post on the atrocity of the connection between abortions & vaccines…
To address the sanctity of life in full is to also address the vaccines demand for fetal body parts. Can you be Pro-Life & also completely ignore the murder of babies being used in Vaccines?
I cannot. It seems to me that as Believers – we have created a little god called Vaccines. We say we are Pro-Life, we say we hate abortion – oh, but if abortion benefits us, if there is a possibility that we can gain better health by injecting aborted babies inside of us, then absolutely give us some of that cocktail & we will work as hard as we can to justify why it’s ok.
Listen to this podcast by John Piper – had to cry a bit listening to it because his stance is not a popular one but it is a Biblical one.
He says, “So, if we really believe that the killing of unborn children is abhorrent to God and falls into the category of the shedding of innocent blood, for which God’s judgment fell, we should not think of turning this wickedness into a wonder drug to save our lives. We should not do evil that good may come.”

Q. BUT IF VACCINES PROVIDE SO MUCH GOOD, THEN PERHAPS GOD HAS USED WHAT SATAN MEANT FOR EVIL?
Could something that is clearly evil in its origin ever be justified based on what might appear to be for overall “good of society”?
John Piper says – “So, if we really believe that the killing of unborn children is abhorrent to God and falls into the category of the shedding of innocent blood, for which God’s judgment fell, we should not think of turning this wickedness into a wonder drug to save our lives. We should not do evil that good may come.”
“Do not be deceived in thinking that since there are some women who will abort their babies anyway, we should use their bodies for good. The ends do not justify the means. Whether you want to admit it yourself or not, you know deep down in your conscience that this is a sin which can never be justified.” Omaha, NE

“Most physicians are not aware of the source of the vaccines. I had to investigate the issue when one of my patients expressed concern. Only then did I learn this. Because such a high number of vaccines are mandatory in Massachusetts, I think it is compulsory that people have a choice of other sources that do not utilize morally repugnant Mengelesque (Joseph Mengele) cannibalization of human suffering.” South Hadley, MA

“Like physicians, pharmacists are supposed to work for the greater good. However, any good achieved through evil means is never acceptable. While the abortion-derived vaccines may have helped to save countless lives, this was done at the expense of aborted children from whose tissues the vaccines were fashioned and that is dead wrong!” Dallas, TX

“We understand that for those who consider abortion acceptable, there is no issue. However, you must understand that we feel about the issue of using tissue from aborted babies as the Jews would feel about using a vaccine derived from concentration camp victims.” Sterling Heights, MI

“Our oldest daughter, Julia, was supposed to be aborted. Her birth mother accidentally called a pro-life clinic while calling Planned Parenthood to get a cheaper price. She then chose adoption for her child. Should Julia be vaccinated with a serum that came from a baby who wasn’t as lucky as her?” Pelham, NY

“We who are pro-life do not want to benefit, medically or otherwise, from these unjust deaths, no matter how few children were used to make the vaccines or how long ago they were killed. By making abortion-derived treatments and prophylaxis a part of everyday medical practice — more and more people become implicated in the crime of abortion, even if only in a remote way. By involving average Americans in the injustice of abortion do they hope to inure us to the point that we will turn a blind eye to the victimization of the unborn — so we will accept other lucrative “treatments” developed from the stolen lives of these children?” Niagara Falls, NY

Q. ISN’T USING VACCINES WITH ABORTED BABY PARTS JUST LIKE RECEIVING AN ORGAN FROM AN ORGAN DONOR?
A. Well for one thing Organ Donors actually HAVE TO AGREE before dying to donate their organs. So if you get a signed document from that baby saying it’s fine having it’s body ripped apart while alive, then go for it. But I want to see the consent form myself.
For another thing – we aren’t continually murdering organ donors so that we can have their organs. When they pass away, we use them, but we don’t murder them alive to harvest the organs ( i mean… there is some theories on this, but i won’t get into that today – but when i researched this 10 years ago I decided to take the Organ Donor sticker off of my license)
With babies, this is the case – scientists are aborting them ALIVE to harvest their organs ALIVE to use for research & development of vaccines.
This is brutal & unethical & evil all around!

Furthermore – An organ donor is not killed because he is an organ donor (hopefully anyway) but babies are aborted & are fueling the vaccine industry.
Their is a Hunt for Fresh Fetuses
“In a CBS 60 Minutes, television expose in 1999 and subsequently reported by the Asheville NC Tribune, not only is there a growing market for baby body parts, but the abortionists now have published “sales lists”. Interested researchers can choose prices ranging from $150.00 for a brain less than 8 weeks gestation to $999.00 for one greater than 8 weeks.”

We Christians love to be champions for life & dignity – lets be consistent shall we?

Q. WHAT THEN SHOULD WE DO?
One of the biggest ways you can make a difference is to SPEAK UP. I cannot tell you the amount of Christians I talk to that have never heard that vaccines contain aborted babies. Share & Rise up Oh Church of God!
Next – Vaccines DO NOT NEED to contain aborted babies. There are other ways for them to get cell lines, including from healthy adults. It’s much easier to use aborted baby cells because they last longer & they avoid all the legalities…but it is not necessary.
The abortion market continues to flourish partially because of our support & approval for the vaccine industry.
I wish our Mennonite/Christian doctors could take some time to advocate for this instead of spending so much time trying to convince everyone why it’s ok to inject aborted babies into our bodies.
You can read a good blog post from Beth Troyer here

SIGN THIS PETITION TO RALLY FOR VACCINES WITHOUT ABORTED BABIES IN THEM!
WATCH THIS VIDEO

I read this Quote & It helped me understand why i’m so passionate about this:
“By promoting so-called ‘scientific benefits’ gained from children who were intentionally killed, regardless of when their deaths occurred, we continue to align ourselves with the evil of abortion. This includes harvesting aborted fetal cell lines in the past and in the present, which we know is currently happening for future vaccine production. By ignoring this, we help perpetuate and further legitimize the connection between abortion, biomedical science, and human trafficking.“

Is has been proven through many studies that women will abort faster if they are told the baby will be used for research…
The June 17, 1991 issue of Time magazine included a story by L. Morrow entitled “When One Body Can Save Another”. The story included a Yankelovich poll revealing public attitudes on the morality of fetal tissue transplantation. According to the poll, 18% thought it acceptable to “conceive and intentionally abort a fetus so the tissue can be used to save another life.”
We can conclude after further study that:

• The vaccines created a need for aborted fetal tissue
• More fetal tissue research is being done to create more vaccines
• Aborted fetal tissue research creates a need for more abortion
• More abortions are done when donating the fetus is an option

Read this blog post where she says “Christians! We cannot hold a Pro-Life sign on Sunday and give our children the chicken pox vaccine on Monday”

In closing – As long as their are slaughter houses, I will be in this battle.

ADDITIONAL RESOURCES:

ABORTION, THE HUMAN FETAL CELL INDUSTRY & VACCINES

FETAL TISSUE REMAINS ESSENTIAL

IS PROMOTING VACCINES WITH ABORTED BABIES IS ALIGNING YOURSELF WITH THE EVIL OF IT

DO VACCINES HAVE ABORTED BABIES? PROVE IT.

JOHN PIPER INTERVIEW OF VACCINES WITH ABORTED BABIES

HOW TO TALK TO YOUR PASTOR/CHURCH ABOUT THE USE OF ABORTED BABIES IN VACCINES

ETHICALLY SOURCED VACCINES PLEASE & THANK YOU

IT IS TIME TO START TALKING ABOUT THIS BLOG & VIDEO\

ABORTED FETAL CELL LINES

VACCINES AND ABORTED BABIES – SHOULD CHRISTIANS BE CONCERNED?

PRO LIFE & PRO VAX?

MORE INFO ON STANLEY PLOTKIN & VACCINES

ABORTED BABIES IN VACCINES BLOG POST WITH INFO

DOES GOD SUPPORT VACCINES?